according to its prima-facie assertions is tantamount to the Self doctrine of non-Buddhists.37 For their dGe lugs opponents even if something which they claimed was an intrinsically existent Absolute were to be directly realized in their no conceptual gnosis by followers of the gzhan stong position, how could that lead to final liberation? It does not touch the real root ignorance, which is failing to understand the true (empty) nature of phenomena. This has nothing to do with cognizing some other supposedly real thing called a tathāgatagarbha. Hence the Jo nang teachings and those like them certainly could not lead to final enlightenment.