We are working on the EPDN wire, unfortunately copper is not as large a part of the cost with EPDM wire as it is with the Magnet wire. The manufacture that we work with has very good leverage in buying copper and average pricing that the avoids the ups and down of the COMEX market. This is why we have been able to keep you pricing the same for so long regardless of the copper pricing. It looks like the best we will be able to do is offer 2 percent discount on you current pricing. Hope this will be acceptable.