Ok, first let me say that I've seen a lot of horror movies, so I'm not speaking out of my ass when I say this. When I first saw Saw, I felt liberated; as a horror movie fan, it was a liberating experience. It was after I first saw it that I realized just how stylized and childish in horror concepts that a lot of the old horror movies are. Movies like The Shining, The Exorcist--I love these movies and think that The Shining is better than Saw, but their concepts seem so stylized as far as horror goes. It's the "ghost" the "supernatural monster" This is a lot of what the older horor movies were about.