hanks for the info Harleytuner, do you know if there's a way to "hard code/set" the VIN so it never gets deleted? I called the dealer near me, told them what I was trying to do and asked about it, they told me to bring it in. Then wanted to know if I needed them to install the race tuner, sounded kinda shady but told then no and I needed the VIN number put back on the ecm so I could install it. I'm sure when I take it there they will find some way to charge me for something other than connecting the digital tech and re-entering the VIN, but we'll see what happens. Thanks again