Moreover, there seems to be a lot more tension among our managers the last two years. The general manager of Professional Services seems to be doing a good job, and she's happy as a lark about the praise I've given her. But the general manager of Industrial Products looks daggers at me every time we meet. And last week, when I was eating lunch with the division manager at Consumer Products, the product development manager came over to our table and rally burned my ears over a new product proposal of hers you rejected the other day. brought I'm wondering if I should follow up on the idea that Karen Kraus in Personnel back from the two-day organization development workshop she attended over at the university. She thinks we ought to have a one-day off-site retreat of all the corporate and divisional managers to talk over this entire return on investment matter.