A last interesting point that Dennis discussed in some length was about the evolution of the OFNZ system to be more standardized and equivalent for the whole of New Zealand. When they started, the idea was to allow a lot of flexibility as to the way of operation, forms, etc that each regional group uses. However as this PGS is recognized throughout New Zealand and products guaranteed by this system are being traded and sold between different provinces and areas, and as the national committee, which is made up of representatives from each regional group, decides about disputes, settles standards and forms, and organizes the training of CM and auditors, there was a clear need for consistency between groups. Thus while there was some debate and fighting of this evolution, now all groups use the same basic forms, and have the same basic process. This makes it easy and clear to say any OFNZ guaranteed product meets the same standards. As far as standards used, OFNZ decided to use the same set of standards as used by BioGro, the IFOAM accredited certification body based in New Zealand. These standards were already in public domain allowing their legal use, however OFNZ does not mention BioGro as the certification process is separate and distinct. The general relationship between OFNZ and BioGro sounds quite positive, Dennis now plays a role with both organizations and there a number of cases where OFNZ farmers have gone on to get BioGro certification when this made sense, such as to meet an export demand.