Siamese and Ragdoll Kitten? Is that the same breed?
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Siamese and Ragdoll Kitten? Is that the same breed?
#1 of 8
8/29/13
Justina Marie
Young Cat
Here is a pic of my Minion...I was told he was Persian and ragdoll AND siamese? Isnt ragdoll and siamese the same thing?
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#2 of 8
8/29/13
Franksmom
Veterans
No they are all different breeds and I believe we have answered about this cat a few times before and we said that the father looked persian and the mother could be either a domestic pointed cat or might be a ragdoll mix. I guess it is possible for the mother to have been half ragdoll and half siamese. Ragdolls as they are pointed most likely have some siamese ancestry but are recognized as a breed by CFA and TICA. The kitten again would be considered a domestic long haired cat because he does not have papers.
#3 of 8
8/29/13
Justina Marie
Young Cat
Yes i have posted about it before, but THIS post was about whether or not Siamese or Ragdoll are the same, which they are not as you stated. Thanks!
#4 of 8
8/29/13
StefanZ
Advisors
Both siameses and ragdolls are caracterised by their points, this they do have in common. Otherwise two totally different breeds.
Most persians dont have point, but there is on subvariation in persians, who are points them too, they are called for the Himalayan.
Once upon a time both ragdolls and himalayans got their point genes from siameses, but otherwise, they dont have much in common.
Ridiculous enough, although siameses are per definition with point being the symbol for points, there is a sort of siameses without point - and these are the Orientals, a breed near siameses - but without point.
Of course, among people not knowing much about cats, they often dont recognize the differences, any longhaired cat is persian, and any cat with point must be siamese.
And Im not ironic, I myself got to know the difference between siameses and orientals on a Show, where we did particpated with our resident Russian Blue.. This was a little embarrassing of course, but the breeder and co-exhibitor explained it very nicely, friendly and diplomatic, with just a hint of a smile. :)
Siamese and Ragdoll Kitten? Is that the same breed?Sign InSiamese and Ragdoll Kitten? Is that the same breed?#1 of 88/29/13Justina MarieYoung CatHere is a pic of my Minion...I was told he was Persian and ragdoll AND siamese? Isnt ragdoll and siamese the same thing? WASSAP.JPG #2 of 88/29/13FranksmomVeteransNo they are all different breeds and I believe we have answered about this cat a few times before and we said that the father looked persian and the mother could be either a domestic pointed cat or might be a ragdoll mix. I guess it is possible for the mother to have been half ragdoll and half siamese. Ragdolls as they are pointed most likely have some siamese ancestry but are recognized as a breed by CFA and TICA. The kitten again would be considered a domestic long haired cat because he does not have papers.#3 of 88/29/13Justina MarieYoung CatYes i have posted about it before, but THIS post was about whether or not Siamese or Ragdoll are the same, which they are not as you stated. Thanks! #4 of 88/29/13StefanZAdvisorsBoth siameses and ragdolls are caracterised by their points, this they do have in common. Otherwise two totally different breeds. Most persians dont have point, but there is on subvariation in persians, who are points them too, they are called for the Himalayan.Once upon a time both ragdolls and himalayans got their point genes from siameses, but otherwise, they dont have much in common. Ridiculous enough, although siameses are per definition with point being the symbol for points, there is a sort of siameses without point - and these are the Orientals, a breed near siameses - but without point. Of course, among people not knowing much about cats, they often dont recognize the differences, any longhaired cat is persian, and any cat with point must be siamese. And Im not ironic, I myself got to know the difference between siameses and orientals on a Show, where we did particpated with our resident Russian Blue.. This was a little embarrassing of course, but the breeder and co-exhibitor explained it very nicely, friendly and diplomatic, with just a hint of a smile. :)
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