friday favorable to the environmental idea what i coldly medieval environmentalism let's get back to the way things were in medieval times and get ready for the iOS platform cause machines they loved it because combat outside was for them emblem of industrialized nation like our blog so clearly is an industrial gas in tired and so tied in with the economic growth with transportation callers with what we call civilization although there are forces in the environmental movement those simply against economic growth they think it's bad one it could be used to the digitalized a whole suite admits that already existed I'm to calm anti-growth anti-development I'm puzzle anti-slapped great second the US patrick moore is considered one of the foremost environmentalists have his generation he is cofounder Greenpeace the ship to climate being a major focal point came about for two very distinct reasons the first reason was because by the mid-eighties a majority people now agreed with all the reasonable things we in the environmental movement were saying they should do now when a majority of people agree with you it's pretty hard to remain confrontational with them and so the only way to rid to remain anti-establishment was to adopt ever more extreme positions when I left Greenpeace it was in the midst of them adopting a campaign to ban chlorine worldwide like I said you guys this is one of the elements in the periodic table you know I mean I'm not sure if that's in our jurisdiction to be banning a whole element as destroying the wall were soon the other reasons that environmental extremism emerged was because world communism failed the wall came down and a lot of peace necks and political activists moved into the environmental movement