Sure no one can discount their hard work.
But there’s a reason the so called "5 year curse" is a thing in kpop. Snsd are lucky to survive this long (like 9 years?) and make it past the early rough stages of their career because they managed to avoid major scandals. Out of WonSoKa they are the only ones left intact and strong today with all original members. It’s almost a miracle for a group with NINE members