In the meeting of minds that is the key stage 4 group we have from there developed other group - maths, science and english - and they have meetings, and that means, for example, that our science department in other schools in the town, which they didn't do before. They did twenty years ago as it happens, but they haven't done for a number of years - they are now. That is a significant for the school in the longer term. Teachers face the same sort of