Gil: It happened in so many small steps and increments along the way and at so many different times, and for me these lessons had to be learned over and over again. It’s kind of embarrassing how many times we have to learn the same thing over and over again (audience laughter). I take an introductory course in meditation two or three times a year. I am also at the same time giving it (audience laughter). It’s very convenient to do both at the same time. I’m listening more carefully than some of the people out there so that I can find out what I need to know. Sometimes when I give talks here the audience I give the talk to is me, myself. It may sound like I am really wise, but really I am giving myself a pep talk. There are a lot of small increments. One of the ways is that there is a lot of learning that comes from suffering. I have learned from suffering and from having an attitude that is not helpful to me, so I took that in and was mindful of the pain and suffering that caused. From seeing that, I could learn from that and make a correction and lighten up. Suffering is one of the important teachers for us—not so we can suffer in a better way, but so that we can become free from that suffering.
Gil: It happened in so many small steps and increments along the way and at so many different times, and for me these lessons had to be learned over and over again. It’s kind of embarrassing how many times we have to learn the same thing over and over again (audience laughter). I take an introductory course in meditation two or three times a year. I am also at the same time giving it (audience laughter). It’s very convenient to do both at the same time. I’m listening more carefully than some of the people out there so that I can find out what I need to know. Sometimes when I give talks here the audience I give the talk to is me, myself. It may sound like I am really wise, but really I am giving myself a pep talk. There are a lot of small increments. One of the ways is that there is a lot of learning that comes from suffering. I have learned from suffering and from having an attitude that is not helpful to me, so I took that in and was mindful of the pain and suffering that caused. From seeing that, I could learn from that and make a correction and lighten up. Suffering is one of the important teachers for us—not so we can suffer in a better way, but so that we can become free from that suffering.
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