Dusty: It will do okay in Tokyo.
Mike: Really?
Dusty: Yeah. And then the grapes, you know, the grape quality isn't very good.
Mike: Okay.
Dusty: But during the summer, they have leaves, and so it kind of cools down your balcony. In then in the winter, the leaves drop away, so you still get a lot of sunlight. It's kind of a very eco-friendly way of cooling your house.
Mike: So what advice would you give to somebody if they wanted to, let's say, grow their own vegetables or herbs, or whatever, on their balcony?
Dusty: Well for one thing, don't be scared to stack things.
Mike: Okay.
Dusty: Yeah. If you don't have much room, it's okay to kind of build a little shelf above one. Herbs don't need a ton of sunlight.