In 1961, PTT was converted from an official government agency into a newly established state-owned company, the Postal and Telecommunications Services company. Four year later, in 1965, Indonesian Government separated this company into two state-owned companies, PN Pos Giro responsible for providing mail services and PN Telekomunikasi as telecommunications services.[12] The mail services PN Pos Giro developed over year, to become the Pos Indonesia in 1995, which is still state-owned today and the official postal carrier for Indonesia's 230 million people.[9][12]