Yeah thats what I heard, but I heard the Test-E is good to stack with the DECA to minimize some of the side effects. From what I've heard, anavar is good for cutting and small lean gains. One of the aspects of DECA that I liked is the way it lubes your joints which would be very beneficial to me since I wakeboard and flexibility something real important when your boarding. In contrast, i heard WINNY gives you sore joints which isn't a side effect I want to have. I was thinking I should go for a bulking cycle first and then do a 2nd cycle for cutting using something such as Anavar. What do you think?