Moreover, there seems to be a lot more tension among our managers the lost two years. The general manager of Professional Services seems to be doing a good job, and she's happy as a lark about the praise l've given her. But the general manager of Industrial Products looks daggers at me every time we meet. And last week, when was eating lunch with the division manager at Consumer Products, the product development manager came over to our table and rally burned my ears over a new product proposal of hers you rejected the other day I'm wondering if I should follow up on the idea that Karen Kraus in Personnel brought back from the two-day organization development workshop she attended over at the university She thinks we ought to have a one-day off-site retreat of all the corporate and divisional managers to talk over this entire return on investment matter.