Sounds the same as a scam Fogarty engineered to defraud investors in the LA (California) area. He took their money (last name of one family is Geffen, I believe, nice folks), and used it to open a business in Conyers, GA (Project Design USA). The investors were defrauded, and the equipment, including 210 and 280 ton moulding machines, wire EDM, sinker, mills, etc. (mostly Mitsubishi equipment sold by Tommy Thompson, who lost a lot) was never paid for, and almost no work was ever done, even though the equipment was stellar for the times and the business could have been an amazing success - the equipment sat still for a couple years, save the very occasional odd project. EVERYONE in business with him lost everything they put in. Tell us, Vince, how did you find your way to Thailand from the States, and to the US from New Zealand before that? We felt sorry for your former wife, Margaret, and the abuse and demands she endured from you.