Diets such as the Ultimate Diet 2.0 get around this by having the heaviest workout after carb-loading (so you can go heavy) and even basic cyclical ketogenic diets help with this. Refeeds refill muscle glycogen and that allows people to go heavier in the weight room; strength isn’t a perfect proxy but if you’re keeping your weights up in the gym, you’re probably not losing muscle.
I actually think that training poorly is part of why guys like Dan Duchaine found that more than 1 lb/week fat loss was too much without props. Training in the 80’s and even early 90’s while dieting was often done in a rather stupid fashion. People trained too many days with too much volume and often dropped intensity too much because of it. That alone allows muscle loss to occur.
Coaches who use lower volume and/or lower frequency but higher intensity training on a diet don’t see that level of muscle loss on a diet (if they see any at all). As noted, people on the Rapid Fat Loss Handbook diet don’t report muscle loss so long as they do the training (low volume/low frequency/high-intensity) in the book.
Excessive amounts of cardio contribute to this as well. When you have drugs to spare muscle loss, 2-3 hours/day of cardio is fine and lets you eat more. For naturals, while it’s sometimes necessary to go to 2 hours/day at the end of a diet (to offset a cratering metabolism), too much cardio just causes the muscles to fall off on a diet. Especially when combined with a big deficit and inadequate protein. But people did (and still do) nutty shit when they diet to get lean; excessive cardio is part of that.
Adequate protein is also a big issue. For years I went with the stock standard 1 g/lb but on a diet this is probably insufficient. As I discuss in detail in The Protein Book, 1.5 g/lb should probably be the minimum while dieting (certainly some people get away with less but this is highly individual). On extreme approaches, more than that (2 g/lb) may be needed.
Diets such as the Ultimate Diet 2.0 get around this by having the heaviest workout after carb-loading (so you can go heavy) and even basic cyclical ketogenic diets help with this. Refeeds refill muscle glycogen and that allows people to go heavier in the weight room; strength isn’t a perfect proxy but if you’re keeping your weights up in the gym, you’re probably not losing muscle.I actually think that training poorly is part of why guys like Dan Duchaine found that more than 1 lb/week fat loss was too much without props. Training in the 80’s and even early 90’s while dieting was often done in a rather stupid fashion. People trained too many days with too much volume and often dropped intensity too much because of it. That alone allows muscle loss to occur.Coaches who use lower volume and/or lower frequency but higher intensity training on a diet don’t see that level of muscle loss on a diet (if they see any at all). As noted, people on the Rapid Fat Loss Handbook diet don’t report muscle loss so long as they do the training (low volume/low frequency/high-intensity) in the book.Excessive amounts of cardio contribute to this as well. When you have drugs to spare muscle loss, 2-3 hours/day of cardio is fine and lets you eat more. For naturals, while it’s sometimes necessary to go to 2 hours/day at the end of a diet (to offset a cratering metabolism), too much cardio just causes the muscles to fall off on a diet. Especially when combined with a big deficit and inadequate protein. But people did (and still do) nutty shit when they diet to get lean; excessive cardio is part of that.Adequate protein is also a big issue. For years I went with the stock standard 1 g/lb but on a diet this is probably insufficient. As I discuss in detail in The Protein Book, 1.5 g/lb should probably be the minimum while dieting (certainly some people get away with less but this is highly individual). On extreme approaches, more than that (2 g/lb) may be needed.
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