Empirical relations are frequently used to derive leaf area index (LAI). Such relations often make assumptions that make it hard to link the derived LAI to realistic trees and forest canopies. In previous work we developed a set of analytical expressions to describe LiDAR waveforms with only a limited number of assumptions based on radiative transfer. These expressions were a function of crown macro-structure and LAI. The expressions were successfully tested when applied on crown archetypes, but showed significant error when applied to more realistic crowns. In this study, we analyse the effect of clumping on inferring LAI from realistic trees. Despite the potential of the expressions to detect subtle changes in LAI, absolute inferred LAI values can be significantly off. However, the strong correlation between true and inferred LAI (R2 > 0.97) for the two test cases in this study, allows for calibration of the inferred LAI values. Index Terms— LiDAR waveforms, radiative transfer, canopy structure, LAI, clumping