Nevertheless there have been many scholars who find the values found in the Theravada Buddhism teachings, such as belief in Karma, emphasis on the ever-changing nature of the universe, and the advocating of detachment from earthy concerns, do not provide a fertile field for democracy to grow out of. For example, "doctrinal Buddhism provides a weak basis for democratic principles" (Jackson, 2003: 245). This is not to suggest democracy is incompatible with Thai values, but as yet seeing a strong functioning democracy where changes in leadership consistently come from free and fair elections in any of the Theravada Buddhist countries of Southeast Asia is still only a hypothesis that has not been proven.