Pappe: Let me put a different spin on it. I’m not as
strict as Johan in terms of cloud vis-à-vis on premise.
We’re seeing a transformation in how we develop and
deploy applications. Say some developers are writing
an application using the DevOps method. The process
is driven by continuous delivery, so turnaround
times are fast. A cloud delivery model is essential for
such a process to work, regardless of whether the
cloud runs on or off premise. The cloud model is the
underlying principle of such a DevOps model. The
ability to execute that is a huge value for our enterprise
and our clients, because they derive business
value out of it. They become more agile and they can
differentiate themselves better from the competition,
and that’s more than infrastructure services.