Thanatul, I am sorry the Red 4 1/2's were not accurately described. My son listed these while I was out of town. My mistake. I wished you would have contacted me first before giving me a negative. I would have given you a full refund. I will give you a $20 refund now and make sure the description is accurate the next time if you would consider revising your negative to a positive. You can keep the shoes or list them on eBay. I am sure someone will buy them. I am a seller since 1998 with a 99.5, now a 99.2 POSITIVE FEEDBACK. Please help and I do apologize for the condition of the shoes my son listed. ($20) Let me know and I can do that refund.