These are Jet 5 track edition, I just got them and literally rode home from the bike shop for about 5 min but, I have never heard of a bad experience with HED. Can't really go wrong. I have their Ardennes on my roadie and I love them. A friend of mine has raced with deep HED wheels on track bike and praised them so, I highly recommend anything they put out. I have Easton deep rims though as race wheels, which came with my Roadie. But my Ardennes I use for training and they are amazing.