This view of relations between teacher and learner, expert and novice, is a radically proximal one in which there is conjoint participation and influence, one in which no mover is unmoved. In such a view of teaching and learning the Word is indeed made Flesh, that is, immanence re places distal transcendence in our understanding of the relations between teacher and learner. Moreover, the learner is seen as having the same agentive footing in the interaction as the teacher. In the former view of teaching, the teacher was seen as the subject and agent and the pupil as the object and patient. In the new view, the student is seen as active, influencing the teacher while being influenced by the teacher.2