Regardless of the contributions of Sabatier and Jenkins-Smith, one still needs to ask if their charges regarding the, at best, marginal improvements for further research results in the policy process are commensurate with reduced research efforts in that vein. I propose a rather more positive response than Sabatier and Jenkins-Smith's gloomy prognostication of reduced research efforts, that the policy process framework will continue to serve as a valuable heuristic in both policy research and programmatic operations. First, as I have suggested, and despite Sabatier and Jenkins-Smith's repeated protestations, there is some doubt as to whether they and the advocacy coalition framework (ACF) have broken out of the paradigm created by the policy process orientation.' And to be fair, it is not clear that we should want them to, for it is apparent that great deal of pivotal research is still to be done within that framework as long as one can admit that the policy process is not a model in the formal sense of the word.