Similarly, at story time Marta always had children sitting on her lap, sometimes two, melting together and into her body, and a child on each side, almost cuddling. Children also sat close to Alphonso, leaning on him, but he was cautious when allowing them to sit on his lap and then he did not pull the children into his body. An issue raised by Farquhar (1998) lingered in the background for Alphonso: He was acutely aware of others' concerns about child abuse, including supposed dangers involved when men work closely with children. In an interview, he described the dilemma: