I will have to say that for a trail show these are one of the best I have owned, not only for the price but the quality and abuse they can take. I am avid ultra marathoner and also do extreme running around the world with 4deserts competitions. The Venture 4 are a great shoe. I would replace the insert with a higher quality one, especially if you are doing long long 50 mile plus trail races. This great shoe for neutral runners. You do loose some feel with the ground with this shoe, but my motto is that running in dirt, rocks, sand and gravel you want little separation of foot and ground. Toe room is perfect. It is a stiffer shoe, so you may need to get used to it a little more. After hours of trail running bottom of your feet may feel it, thus the inserts I mentioned. But, good shoe, good quality, pretty good at keeping feet dry. But no shoe is "water proof" and these do dry quickly. Overall good shoe!!