The second circumstance is one where one group finds itself in a minority repeatedly when votes are taken. Imagine a rackets club which has a larger number of keen tennis players and a smaller number of equally keen squash players, and imagine that every time a vote is taken on whether to spend money upgrading the tennis or the squash courts, the squash players lose. We might think that this arrangement does not treat each member squash players get their way form time to time. In other words, we have the problem of the intense minority and the problem of the persistent minority.