I often see the articles that classify the fans into two types, like ‘fans’ and ‘general public’, or ‘core fans’ and 'casual fans’, but I think the fans should be classified into three types… first, those who are not the fans - the general people -. second, the casual fans, and third, the core fans who are like “we can do anything for ~chan! ”. And the popularity at handshake events or getting attentions at net are.., I think most of that kind of catching-eyes movements are largely casual fans’ movements.”