“What do you plan on doing by following that Hero of the Shield?” (Taniko)
“He wants to become strong. Nature has its limits. He won’t become strong as he is right now. As he wishes, I’ll make him the strongest, so don’t get in his way!” (Naofumi)
“Not happening! No good will come out of sending him to you as you are now.” (Taniko)
“Hmph. I thought I would use you as a replacement for Rat. How foolish.” (Naofumi)