JO: It was meant to be.
CT: Yeah, and the original idea was to make a film about his relationship to Holland because that was a very strong relationship right from the beginning. As I did more and more research that expanded and I decided Italy is very important in his life and his work so I thought we need to go to Italy. And then as I was doing my research there was the MASS MoCA show that is so great we have to include that and then there was the exhibition in City Hall Park, that too. Basically it goes back to March 1st 1984.
JO: So that’s the genesis.
CT: Yeah, and I looked at that news clip from the 8 o’clock news in the archive but decided not to use it. It would be very strange to make a movie about someone who does not want to be interviewed and put your own persona up front. It doesn’t make any sense.
JO: What you had to say about his mode of work when you first encountered it and were focusing on the conceptual aspect of that. I identify with that. I understand what you’re saying, correct me if I’m wrong, it is directly analogous to film making. These pieces have a life but they are in a certain sense disposable, temporary if you will. If you have a Rembrandt and it catches fire and its burned. It’s gone forever.
CT: Except in the memory of people.
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